SATHYA SAI SYSTEM
OF EDUCATION IN AFRICA
BROTHER VICTOR KANU,
welcome to the studios of Radio Sai Global Harmony. You are
of course a very familiar figure to all of us here at Prasanthi
Nilayam but many people might not have seen you and even if
they have seen you they might not know much about you. So,
may be I can request you to say a few words by way of introduction.
Thank you very much
for inviting me to this recording. My present name is Victor-Krishna
Kanu. Krishna was added after God had, in a dream, called
me “Victor-Krishna.” I am 75 years old and was
educated through primary and secondary schools and teacher
training systems of Sierra Leone. I subsequently was admitted
at Oxford University where I studied philosophy, politics
and economics. I later became my country’s High Commissioner
(Ambassador) to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern
Ireland with further accreditations to Norway and Sweden.
That was a political appointment which was later to be blown
away by the political typhoons that characterised African
politics in the 1970s in particular. Almost immediately after
this experience, I came in contact with Bhagavan Sri Sathya
Sai Baba in a miraculous way in late 1975.
You said that you came
in contact with Bhagavan Baba in a miraculous way. Would you
mind telling us exactly how it happened?
The life of a High
Commissioner in London was a life of sophistication, of living
and moving with and around high society – dining at
Buckingham Palace and the House of Lords, etc. Indulgence
in quality and excessive alcohol drinking, smoking the best
cigarettes and cigars and dancing to the tunes of some of
the best bands in London was the order of the day. Surprisingly,
this expensive lifestyle did not vanish with the cessation
of my High Commissionership. Old habits die hard. And so one
day, in late 1975, I visited the pub. For a while I was fully
aware of myself and the happenings in the pub. Later, I lost
my awareness only to find myself in bed, at home, in my full
winter dress – boots and all that. I then realised that
I was deadly drunk the previous night. It was in that drunken
stupor that I dreamt two angels had come to take me. We floated
(I between them) in and through the deep blue sky to an unknown
destination where I found my ancestors and thousands of people
engaged in spiritual activities. Five years later, I came
to know the name and recognised the destination as Prasanthi
Nilayam when I made my first visit to Sathya Sai Baba’s
Ashram (Prasanthi Nilayam) in July 1980. Immediately after
this dream, my lifestyle changed dramatically much to the
displeasure of my cohorts. The bad things I used to do, I
did them no more. I could not explain the reason.
Would it be right
to say that that was a turning point and you started becoming
spiritual after that?
That is correct because
there was a time in my life when I was riding so high both
in my country and in London that I stopped to care or even
talk about God. The Bible and church-going which I practised
in my youth were forsaken. I was deluded into believing that
only the world and its tantalising pleasures mattered, until
Baba sent His angels to fish me out of the mud and bring me
to Prasanthi Nilayam and be cleansed. Yes, indeed, I became
a spiritual seeker once again – reading the Bible, going
to church and becoming President of the Spiritualists Association
of Great Britain (SAGB) and as well as a member of Sri Sathya
Sai Organisation in the United Kingdom.
This going to church
interests me. You say, you were attracted to Baba but you
went to church! You did not see any contradiction in that?
Not at all. As a matter
of fact, the more I read about Baba’s teachings, studied
and observed His lifestyle at close quarters, the more my
faith in Jesus Christ (faith that was once lost) was strengthened.
I saw no conflict of interests. I only saw and continue to
see Baba and Jesus as manifestations of the Divine. Both are
the same.
That is very interesting
because we have often heard people belonging to other faiths
say, Swami telling them be a good Christian, be a good Muslim,
be a good Jew, so on and so forth. He does not want people
to change their religion and religious affiliations.
That is so. Baba is
the only one in the whole world who has told spiritual seekers
belonging to various spiritual/religious traditions to remain
where they are, become good practitioners of their faith,
love and respect other faiths because all are simply different
pathways to the same God. What a wonderful teaching! Baba
is truly a unifier of humanity; torch-bearer of love and peace
to one and all.
That is very interesting.
Now you were in London and you went back to Africa. But you
did not go to your own country. Instead you went to Zambia
and founded a school there. This is a very remarkable change
in your life, your mission and your work. Would you like to
tell us something about that? How it happened in particular?
As the saying goes,
“Half a loaf of bread is better than no loaf at all.”
Better to join the then Inner London Education Authority (ILEA)
than be a beggar in the streets of London. In any event, both
Genoveva and I were in the field of education before the glamour
and promises of the world sucked us into the volcanic eruptions
of African politics. Now with the revival of our interests
in spirituality and education combined, we were happy to attend
the First Overseas Conference for Bal Vikas Teachers in 1983
at Prasanthi Nilayam, where we were exposed for the first
time to the Education in Human Values (EHV) Programme.
Puttaparthi must have
been very different at that time?
The difference is only
in the physical appearance of the area. The Divine Presence
of Swami remains the same, so are the feelings of satisfaction
and spiritual upliftment when one is there.
How did you happen
to choose Zambia?
Well, actually it was
Swami Himself. We had visited Zambia very briefly to conduct
an EHV workshop. That was all. We knew no one there except
three or four devotees. But when we came to Baba in 1987,
He said to us, “Go to Zambia and spread My message of
love through education. Build a school and help the people.”
And, do you know why He chose Zambia for us? It was for a
very good reason because Zambia happens to be, in my judgement,
a very stable country. The people are very mature spiritually.
It must have been very
difficult for you to start a school in a country you were
not familiar with. And you must have been short of resources
– physical, financial, and manpower resources. Tell
us something about how you braved it all.
I very well still remember
what happened in the interview room when Baba told us to go
and set up this school. My wife was brave, I was not. She
turned towards Baba and said, “Baba, what about funding?”
Swami said, “Sell your house. If funds are not enough,
borrow from banks.” Well, we were delighted when He
told us to sell our house. Being brought up as Christians,
we remembered the story in the Bible when a rich man went
to Jesus and said, “Oh Lord, what can I do to come near
God?” Jesus said, “Sell all that you have and
give to the poor and follow me.” The man ran away when
he heard these words. We were overjoyed.
This was the Father
speaking to you.
Yes, this was the
Father. We were so thrilled that Sathya Sai Baba whom we believe
to be God Incarnate and the Father who sent Jesus had directed
us to go to Zambia. It was not that He could not have given
us funds, but that was a test. We knew that straightaway and
we did exactly as He wanted us to do. We also remembered the
stories of Hanuman, and other great disciples how they went
to distant lands because the Lord was with them. So, that
was enough for us. We knew Baba would be with us throughout.
When Baba said, “Go to Zambia,” He did not say,
there would be no difficulties. Difficulties are part of life.
It is my experience
that when you do God’s work, you face more difficulties.
Yes, more difficulties,
more tests. We enjoyed every bit of them, we knew that Lord
Baba was testing us.
Your school has been
invariably described as a miracle school. Now tell us something
about why it is called a miracle school.
The school is located
in a socially and economically disadvantaged area. Many boys
had failed the national primary Grade 7 examination (a precondition
for entrance into secondary schools). They failed because
they were truants, poor attenders and difficult to teach.
They were rejects. These were the same boys the Sathya Sai
Secondary School in Ndola admitted. After two years and upon
taking the National Grade 9 examination, not only were they
among those who obtained the highest marks in the country,
they all passed (100%). This success rate has been repeated
at Grade 12 later for the past 10 years. They are at various
institutions of higher learning in the country. This is the
“Miracle” – the “Sai Miracle”.
That was in which year?
I suppose, it was all part of the Divine plan.
That was in 1994. This
was marvellous; the nation was stunned. How come a school
which was located in a village among poor children do so well!
This had never happened in the educational history of Zambia.
It was all part of the Divine plan. It could not have happened
without Swami’s intervention.
I presume there is
no fee. Do you get any subsidy from the government?
No fee at all. We only
ask a little for commitment purposes, but no tuition fee.
There is no subsidy from the government. Swami is the provider
of everything. So, the results were astonishing. The character
of the children improved and they became good boys in a short
period of time.
Did these students
make any impact at home on their families?
Yes. There was a lot
of impact on their families. I can give you two instances.
A boy persistently told his father to take him to Sathya Sai
School very early in the morning, because he did not want
to be late. After dropping him at school, the father would
report for work and was the first to do so. Within six months,
the father got promotion because of his punctuality and regularity
at work. Also, a Managing Director who was the last to go
to work began dropping his child very early in the morning
at Sathya Sai School (at the insistence of the child), and
he also became the first person to open his office; his late
coming was reduced and so was that of his employees. There
are many testimonies of this nature from parents as well as
from children. The boys who never used to study, began to
tell others at home to study and not to make noise.
I think, Ndola is not
a big town. How much is the population?
It is relatively big
enough. Population is about 250,000 people. We had a choice
between building the school in the heart of the city or in
the poorer area. So, I sent Genoveva to Baba. I said, “Please
ask Him where we should put the school.” He said, “Go
to the poor area, train them.”
And apart from classroom
instructions, you also have social services and things like
that?
Yes. We are very much
involved in community work – helping the old and orphans.
That is very good because
you must pay back to your society. I want you to tell us something
about what you are doing for proper utilisation of water resources
in Africa. I have heard that you spoke about this last year
in Sai Kulwant Hall and this was something totally new and
breathtaking. I am sure everyone will be interested in hearing
you.
Well, this is a United
Nation’s (UN-HABITAT) Project - Water Education for
African Cities Programme. There are many reasons why there
is need for water education. Firstly, the population of Africa
a century ago was 150 million. Now it is 875 million. According
to projections, there would be one and a half billion people
in the next 20 to 25 years, using the same water resources,
the same rivers, the same lakes. Also, extravagant use of
water, illegal connections, pollution, vandalism of water
infrastructures, etc., are common practices. Pollution is
rampant and at a very high level. In addition, there are conflicts
between countries sharing the same rivers; for example, Egypt
and Ethiopia. There are water riots and, as you know, there
have been water wars in history. There can be water wars also
in Africa. History is replete with such wars. In fact, water
would become a major issue for peace and stability in the
continent.
How did you and the
U.N. come together on this? That will be very interesting
to hear.
Well, the U.N. and
national governments have tried many methods (mainly technological
and regulatory) for the supply and uses of water. But in spite
of these measures, the desired result has not been realised
and it is unlikely this will happen. So, the U.N. found that
by bringing in human values into the water education component
will be of great assistance in water management/education.
How did they make
this discovery?
They made this discovery
when they heard about the African Institute of Sathya Sai
Education in Ndola. It is the first institute of its kind
in Africa that specialises in human values education.
That is the offshoot
of your earlier school?
That is right. The
UN-HABITAT invited an Expert Group of educationists, curriculum
developers, water utilities experts and environmentalists
from Africa to a meeting in Johannesburg in April 2001. There
were many people who presented papers at the meeting organised
by the UN- HABITAT. I also presented one, “Water Education
– A Human Values Approach.” The participants liked
it so much that they unanimously adopted it as a possible
solution, something that would complement the existing methods.
This could only have been possible by Swami’s grace.
After that I was asked to present a similar paper to a parallel
special session of the U.N. General Assembly in New York on
6th June 2001. This paper was also well received and it was
put in the U.N. records. Then I was asked to chair a sub-regional
meeting of African countries in Ndola and another in West
Africa including some French speaking African countries. After
these I was given a consultancy for integrating human values
in Water Education in the curriculum of schools in Africa
starting with six countries – Ethiopia, Kenya, Zambia,
Ghana, Senegal and Ivory Coast. TAISSE (The African Institute
of Sathya Sai Education) examined the syllabuses of all these
countries with a view to preparing a Pedagogic Guide, Lesson
Plans and supplementary materials as a prelude to the integration
of human values in Water Education. TAISSE carried out the
work successfully.
Even for an average
citizen it would be a good thing.
Yes, in fact it goes
beyond the school, the formal sector. We are also interested
in the non-formal sector because they are water users. We
try to re-vitalise the values in traditional African culture
and then harmonise them with the needs and requirements of
modern water users.
Is this received well
by the public and the government?
Yes. This is very well
received and that is why the United Nations (HABITAT) is so
much interested in the Human Values Approach. People really
want to go back to their roots. This makes the work easier
since they can relate this programme to their traditional
values. “Human Values are in every culture”, says
Baba.
So, what is going
to happen next in this wonderful programme that has just got
started?
Well, first we have
to examine the syllabi as we have said earlier, extract all
water related topics from pre-school, primary and secondary
in all disciplines and then submit our findings, suggestions
to the United Nations which will then be submitted to the
respective Curriculum Development Centres in the African countries.
This is the first phase of the programme. Phase 2 is being
planned.
And when it is submitted,
will it be made mandatory in all schools?
Yes, mandatory by the
government itself because the government will see the wisdom
of adopting such an approach. The beauty of it is that bringing
in human values into the school curriculum really does not
involve any extra time. It does not overburden the curriculum
and is very easy to understand and implement.
I am not surprised,
you just have to remind the people of their culture.
That is all. It does
not require elaborate materials at all. People usually worry
about extra work. “What is water education? How much
is it going to burden the already overburdened syllabus? And
how much is it going to cost?” We tell them that there
is no extra burden and no extra cost – only extra benefit.
This is the truth.
Courtesy: Radio Sai
Global Harmony
Sai Ram
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